Didn't mean to imply that you weren't. But when it costs the government (ie, the taxpayers) $25,000 for each of those $4500 (or $3500) discounts, you can't say your discount didn't cost us anything.

I am the working middle class thank you very much.

NNY61, unless you paid $25,000 over the list price, it did indeed cost the taxpayers money for you to get that $4500 discount. Just another example of the government throwing money away in order to say they did something good. Just, for a change, the working middle class could get some benefit from it.

I traded in a clunker that got 15 mpg for a car that gets 35 mph and I paid cash so I guess I could afford the vehicle. syrguy100 it cost you nothing for my clunker deal because I am a taxpayer so I am sure my taxes covered any costs. Ignorance is bliss.

Block, the rules were different for trucks, minivans and SUVS. If you were trading in one of these, the new vehicle only had to get 2 or 3 mpg more in order to qualify for the full $4500. I had checked into this, as we wanted to trade in our minivan, but the program ended before we could arrange our budget to afford the payments. (such a strange idea, I know)

e-10 is an alcohol base fuel unless im on the drag strip or an indy car then mileage wouldnt be a factor however that is not the case. the motors that were made for the average car require petroleum base fuels. alcohol is not the best thing for rubber seals in the engines or fuel system. take a rubber band in let it soak in alcohol see how long it will last or should i just say it wont be as strong as it once was

e-10 is an alcohol base fuel unless im on the drag strip or an indy car then mileage wouldnt be a factor however that is not the case. the motors that were made for the average car require petroleum base fuels. alcohol is not the best thing for rubber seals in the engines or fuel system. take a rubber band in let it soak in alcohol see how long it will last or should i just say it wont be as strong as it once was

e-10 is an alcohol base fuel unless im on the drag strip or an indy car then mileage wouldnt be a factor however that is not the case. the motors that were made for the average car require petroleum base fuels. alcohol is not the best thing for rubber seals in the engines or fuel system. take a rubber band in let it soak in alcohol see how long it will last or should i just say it wont be as strong as it once was

Block, lets not get TOO deep into fine details. There are other countries to attack over oil!!! :) ;) ;)

I agree Monsanto, most of these posts are scary if they are adults. I very much disliked the program, but the comments are insane. $500,000 is VERY FEW sales out of the $3 BILLION program. "The government reported spending more than $500,000 in rebates for new vehicles that got the same or worse mileage than their trade-in." That's against the rules, which is why the gov't is investigating. The article is poorly written and doesn't make that 100% clear... The program allowed a $3500 "rebate" for buying a vehicle that only gets 4 MPG better mileage (which is insanity). The new car needed to get 10 MPG better to get the full $4500, so the reference to $4500 is misleading. People did not get $4500 if they bought a gas hog. E10 is known to reduce mileage by 3%. E10 is only 10% ethanol, and Ethanol contains about 30% less energy then gas, so the math works out to be 10% x 30% = 3% less energy in E10. Search Google and educate yourself. Also, channel 9 just had a story about it. 30MPG x 3% is 1MPG, not 2-3 MPG. E10 burns cleaner (more oxygen in it) is why it's used. Recall the older additve caused cancer, so they we use E10 instead now.