Oswego (WSYR-TV) -- Police continue to investigate a crash on Engles Road in Oswego County that left four men dead on Monday.
Investigators say speed was a factor in the crash, but could it have been something more? Neighbors say that stretch of roadway is particularly treacherous.
With plenty of steep ups and downs, Engles Road runs straight, but anything but slow.
It’s something Donna Johnson and Andy Bardin, neighbors in the area, say they know all too well. They’ve seen plenty of close calls, whether leaving the house or coming home.
“Oh, it's just a flash when they go by. A lot of times you don't hardly see them go by they're going that fast,” said Johnson. "If we hadn't put on the brakes and stopped, I probably wouldn't be talking to you today.”
"I've almost got hit a couple of times turning into my driveway,” said Bardin.
Though speed did play a factor in Monday’s crash, whether driver 19-year-old Joseph McCarthy was trying to “get air” coming over a hill may never be known. Neighbors say it’s a popular pastime for kids.
“People like to fly over them, get their wheels off the ground. I've seen it more and more,” Bardin continued.
Stopping by the scene on Wednesday, McCarthy’s longtime friend says “everyone” gives it a try.
“Everybody does it. Everybody comes over the hills and catches air,” said Matt Parkhurst.
Although they don't like it, longtime residents say they’re used to people speeding up and down that particular stretch of Engles Road. Still, at the very least, they'd like to see more signage telling people the speed limit, which is apparently 55 miles per hour. However, a NewsChannel 9 crew never saw a speed limit sign.
Sign or no sign, friends and family of those young men hope this serves as a lesson.
“Enjoy life for the smaller things, instead of the thrill of things,” Parkhurst continued.
As far as the investigation goes, the Oswego County Sheriff’s Office is still investigating why McCarthy went off the road, how fast he was going and where he was headed at the time of the crash.